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By: beelzbubba

klang: first let me say thanks for posting this--and for acknowledging that you cribbed it from my open browser (heh). koeselitz: I love me some Can, adn Kraan, and all sorts of varieties of 70s-80s...

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By: yerfatma

I will do that. Thanks. Any other recommendations gladly accepted. If I had to boil down my requirements for jazz artists into one rule, it would be the same one I have about dogs: "Be interesting".

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By: languagehat

Yeah, Shipp isn't at all cerebral. Give him another listen. And the rest of these guys too (includes listening guide).

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By: Wolof

I think Shipp has a whole lot of blues in him, and is much more approachable than some might think.

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By: klangklangston

"I remember back in high school I stumbled across a copy of ECM's Music with 58 Musicans sampler album in a used vinyl store. That plus a love of Miles Davis and a borrowed copy of Heavy Weather is...

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By: languagehat

OK, total derail, but this is a jazz thread, and I have to share this: Jazz Dispute, wherein one guy renders a musical debate between Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie. Amazing. And fun.

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By: docgonzo

Y'know, I love Chris Speed, Hamid Drake, William Parker, Ken Vandermark, etc. as much as the next guy, but pretending that jazz conservatism doesn't mark the vast, vast, vast majority of purchased and...

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By: koeselitz

docgonzo: "This is where I stopped reading. Anyone who thinks the last two decades is marked by conservatism has not been paying fucking attention." What in God's name are you talking about? The last...

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By: koeselitz

klangklangston: "I'm really not a huge fan of the Kind of Blue or Hot Sevens, though I realize their place, so it's nice to finally see jazz lists compliled by folks who are passionate about this era,...

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By: yerfatma

I was struck by how much more animated and into it the jazz audience was than the rock audience, despite having the mean age at least 20 years higher. Oh, I don't think that's surprising. The jazz...

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By: yerfatma

pretending that jazz conservatism doesn't mark the vast, vast, vast majority of purchased and discussed output is silly I saw a similar feeling expressed in a copy of Esquire sitting in our crapper at...

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By: timelord

This is all kinds of goodness. It's a shame that this period of jazz music doesn't get more attention (but I suppose that could also be said for jazz as a whole). But at least it's not completely...

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By: klangklangston

Lhat— Yeah, I whiffed on the "haters" link (I previewed twice and didn't catch it, which is why I'm a better writer than an editor). It was supposed to go at the end, and I should have added more...

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By: docgonzo

The post Vietnam era is thus more dominated by fear and a resulting trend toward conservatism, This is where I stopped reading. Anyone who thinks the last two decades is marked by conservatism has not...

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By: languagehat

OK, I just read the Yaffe piece (here's a better link that preserves its formatting) and I think you may have done it a disservice by linking it to "haters" without explanation; I almost skipped it,...

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By: languagehat

Wow. I'll have to explore this after dinner, but right now I just want to say [this is cool]. Thanks, klang, and fuck the neocons!

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By: Wolof

Nice post, thanks very much.

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By: klangklangston

Yeah, I'm still working my way through it. The late '60s through early '70s is my favorite time for jazz, especially the African consciousness stuff that came out of black nationalism (I'm a polyrhythm...

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By: koeselitz

There should be some debate as to whether to add Can to the list, though, if you ask me.

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By: koeselitz

This is really great. I'm going to have to process it a bit. Thanks.

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But is it jazz?

Jazz '71-'89Dave Douglas posed the challenge: "Is there a writer who can take on the project of an unbiased overview of music since the end of the Vietnam War?" The Bad Plus answered (though not...

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